
What would you wear if you were going to
have lunch with Nora Ephron?
(If you are the one person in the world who
doesn’t know who Nora Ephron is, Google
her and read about an amazing woman.)
Nora Ephron and her sister Delia had optioned
two of my books and we were going to meet
for the first time for lunch.
What would I wear? I’d been married a long time.
I never went any place good anymore. My life
was ShopRite, the Post Office, Walmart, and the
Bridgewater mall. My closet reflected my life.
What would I talk about? I figured Nora and Delia
usually had lunch with Meryl Streep and Meg Ryan.
I usually had lunch with my dog. I live in New Jersey.
What’s to talk about? Not much happens in New
Jersey except to Tony Soprano on HBO.
The only thing Nora and I had in common was that
we had each had three husbands (one at a time). I
didn’t think that was appropriate to talk about on
a “first date.”
I knew whatever I was going to wear had to be black.
We were going to lunch in Manhattan.
I wanted to wear something unique and subtle,
like the clothes at Barney’s, like Audrey Hepburn
would wear. But I was four times Audrey’s size.
The heck with Barney’s. Who could afford
anything at Barney’s anyway? Who could fit into
anything at Barney’s if they weren’t a size 0. The
only time I ever went into Barney’s was to use
their bathroom.
Sleepless nights thinking every floor in Bloomingdale’s.
Days spent hating everything in my closet. Why did
I buy such crap?
In the 40s and 50s when I grew up, I went to the movies
every Saturday afternoon. I idolized Hedy Lamarr,
Joan Crawford, Loretta Young. They had class. I wanted
to look like them.
I was a 60-year-old grandmother, 15 pounds overweight,
yet I wondered what Lana Turner would wear to lunch
with Nora and Delia.
Years before, I’d bought a small silver fox stole, the kind
with a face that had marble-like eyes, in a second-hand
store. I can’t resist a great sale and sometimes buy things
only Rita Hayworth could wear.

I once bought a small black felt hat with a veil that I never
wore. It would have looked great on Marlene Dietrich.

Hallelujah! Problem solved.
Hallelujah! I’d go Marlene Dietrich in my clothes. Hat
with veil, fox stole, simple black dress.

Drove to New York, parked my car in an outrageously
high-priced lot (never told my husband how much
it cost), and I walked to the restaurant.
Two teenage boys were walking in back of me and I
heard them giggling. Then I heard one of them say,
“That old lady has a dead animal around her neck.”
I was no longer Dietrich. I was no longer vintage. I
was Bette Davis in “What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?”.

The restaurant was fancy. I looked for two women
in black but everybody was in black. Lunch went
well. I didn’t spill anything but reading the menu, the
veil kept getting in the way of my reading glasses.
The sisters discussed what they wanted to eat and
after much discussion ordered the same thing. They
gave the waiter very specific instructions about their
order.
When the food came, they only ate a few mouthfuls.
No wonder they’re so thin and I’m not. I had to stop
myself from asking if I could take their leftovers home
for dinner.
Neither sister commented on my outfit. They were
very nice to me and my books. The conversation was
mostly about food. The only mention of vintage was
about vintage tomatoes. I’d never heard of them but
I made believe they were divine, too.
“Love, loss, and What I Wore,” the off-Broadway
show the sisters wrote—inspired by my books—
won awards and played to sold-out audiences for
over three years. Every month the cast changed.
Every cast was composed of big stars like Rosie
O’Donnell, Tracee Ellis Ross, Tyne Daly, Jane Lynch,
Kristin Chenoweth, Carol Kane, Brooke Shields,
Natasha Lyonne, Samantha Bee, and dozens and
dozens more.
I got to meet them. I thought I was dreaming.
Lunch with Nora and Delia was a big part of the
dream.

I had other lunches with Nora, minus hat and fox stole.
She was so normal. Not like the big shot she was. She
listened. She gave good, practical advice. You’d like her.
She’d tell the actors, “Don’t act. Just tell the story.”
And she’d tell everybody, “Be the heroine of your life,
not the victim.” I learned a lot from Nora.
I wish I could lunch with Nora and Delia again. Nora
died on June 20, 2012. My daughter died a few years
later on June 16th. Even though my birthday is in June,
June has always been a sad month for me.
The hat and fox stole are in a box in the back of my closet.

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About your world,
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Goodbye until next time…
Hope your day turns out as well as I hope (but doubt) mine will,
Gingy (Ilene)


I love this! So much.
Loved all of your books and of course saw the show.
Nora and Delia are also favorites of mine.
I , too, have a June birthday and remember when we met, that you were a Gemini.
So sorry for your loss. May your memories sustain you.
Your wonderful sense of humor makes me smile and laugh outright!
I look forward to seeing your blog.
Best
Roberta
I think I love this story most of all. (Not true…there are many.) Thank you for sharing this one, though. It’s magical. ♥️
Oh, gosh, my grandmother had one of those animal stoles. It terrified me as a young girl. I wouldn’t go anywhere near it. I always wanted to know where its insides were…but she wore it with the same Dietrich hat you did-as well as fancy, beaded dress gloves! She looked just like your drawing. Those were the days when the family went to places like the Copacabana or Trader Vic’s for birthdays and anniversaries. Later, when I was old enough, we went to the Hawaii Kai for my birthday–but I don’t think they dressed up quite so much for that. I love your references to clothes, and your book Love, Loss and What I Wore, which I have read several times.
Interesting anecdotes about Nora Ephron. I always wonder what famous people are like when not preening ” in public.”
I’ll tell you about a long-haired skinny guy who was leaning against a building at the northeast corner of Lexington Avenue and 57th Street in the mid-to-late 1960’s. He was wearing skinny jeans and a ruffled red and white gingham shirt watching the world go by. A woman dressed like Jackie Kennedy, and her companion, a man dressed like early James Bond, took one look at him, and she said “disgusting.” I made eye contact with the young guy and we shared a laugh. I didn’t have the heart to go over to him and ruin his anonymity because it was Mick Jagger that was being totally ignored on 57th Street. How rare is that? Since I grew up on Lex between 57 and 58 Streets I saw lots of famous people in the neighborhood. Some were friendly and smiling, some were cold and aloof. If you didn’t want people to notice you, why did you become an actor (or other reason for fame)?
I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you find some happiness in memories of your daughter.
That bikini cartoon is so funny–and so true. My bathing suit for “real people” includes a tummy reducing panel, soft cups for breast support, and a sarong-type bottom that hides “saddlebags” and cellulite. It came from Florida. Not NYC, where everything is in single digit sizes.
I can’t wait to see what you write about next!
Oh, yes! Those were the days, Gingy. I’ll bet you looked very Marlene, those boys just didn’t understand the reference! Celebrate Nora’s birthday, do not mourn her death. It’s May 19th, the day after mine….♥️
I always love your stories. Each one is always better than the last! That is why I always admired you!
I will go for #3 comment because I find myself feeling so sad and admiring you for coming through a giant loss in your life and retaining all your talent and humor. You make me laugh and cry.
Peggy
I just read this and every word was a jewel. i would agonize over what I would wear. I do not have a suitable dress. I think I will give them to rummage. I have a tiny over your shoulder furry throw that my granddaughter gave me to wear at her wedding Jan. 2019. Was your lunch in winter. I would have worn it but it is too dressy for lunch so scratch that. And I don’t have anything to go with it anyway. I had a fox thing that I loved. It was my mother’s but I gave it away years ago. I had no place to wear it. The fox would look nice with a wool suit which I do not own. Do you think that is a good idea for you???????? You always say you do not cook – how are you on take out. If I could write like you with such insight and humor I would give up cooking and a great deal else.
I look forward every month for your blog wish it was every week
love you bikini cartoon…
I was passing a store window a while back and looked at all the dresses on mannequins. all the dresses had short skirts..I spoke out loud to myself and I said
“I don’t know anyone over 25 who loves their knees…”
two women were at the same window. One one of them said
“Just what we were thinking,”
(ps.Gingy ..Estelle may have had a right to love her knees…)
I love it….so many memories come up just reading it….
I love the cartoon .
One day I was passing a store window with lots of dresses alll of them were above the knees.
and I said out loud to no one ..”I don’t know anyone who loves their knees..”
two ladies looking in the same window said to me
“That is just what we were saying”
(ps,,,Gingy…. maybe Estelle had the right to love her knees…) certainly had a right to love her legs…
I always love your posts. I work from home and pretty much never go out, so my closet is full of comfortable, “unstylish” clothes too. I can relate to the feeling of panic when there’s an event, and I am totally unprepared for anyone to see me in public.
Ginny: You are funny and you are sad, too. You are more clever than Nora Ephron ever was- and you are honest, too. The bittersweet story leaves me with a very heavy heart, but your humor always shines through.
Sheila.
Love you Ilene. May is my sad month but still holding all my memories close. Florida living is a lot more relaxed living where anything more than shorts, T-shirt and sandals is dressed up…I don’t know if I’ll remember how to dress when I come back to NJ. Sending you hugs.
Beautiful story, Ilene. Brings me back to a happy time. It never got old to be working with Nora… her writing informed my becoming myself.
Love
Terry
Such a beautiful post. Once again, I greatly the humor, along with the realistic nature of emotions and life within your posts. I am envious of the sisters going to lunch with you and I bet you and your outfit looked stunning. I love the part about wanting to take the food home HAHA. You are such an inspiration, always have been and always will be. I would love to see pictures of you in your small silver fox stole and maybe I can borrow it? Aweosme post. Cannot wait for your next one already. Much love for you and your unique and creative mind.
Dear I.B.
Once again you have brought back a memory of my childhood. But, my memory doesn’t have anything to do with meeting famous people. Although, being from New Jersey, I can also claim Tony Soprano! My memory is of the dead animals I used to see around the necks of the old lady Conklin sisters who went to my church. As a child, I sat behind them every Sunday and stared at these creatures. They had tiny little feet, pointy noses and black, beady eyes and I would imagine them snarling at me. (The animals, not the Conklin sisters!) Not many people remember these critters but every once in a while, I find one hanging on a hat rack in an antique store. I still don’t get very close. I bring my husband over for him to see and we have a laugh. I should mention, he knew the Conklin sisters too!!! Over the years my husband and I grew up, married and moved away. And, eventually the Conklin sisters passed. I wonder if they took the foxes with them?
Thank you for taking me on a trip down memory lane. And, if we ever get to see each other again, please feel free to take the critter out of the box and wear it proudly. I will wear my Pill Box hat!
Stay well.
Love, Joyce
omg this is your best column, even though I say that every month. This really is.
I laughed I cried. You and Nora are both terrific writers with fabulous sensibilities. And you have something else in common: I’ve read all your and all Nora’s books. Wonderful all.
Thanks for this.
Bittersweet.
Love you. XX
Great article-thank you!
Wonderful blog. I look forward to them every month. Especially loved the challenge that dressing presented. I live in Florida now and even visiting Jersey
puts me in a tailspin.
I forgot to say that I read all your books and saw the play twice — and loved everything!
Dear Gingi,
As always, you made me laugh with this one. You also made me cry. I’m sorry June is such a sad month for you. How sad to lose a daughter! You have had a full life. I’m so glad you wrote the books you did, which I have enjoyed reading and raving about. Whatever you wear, you look great in. Thanks for inspiring me in living and wearing clothes,
Sally
You touch me with your writing and your very wonderful open heart. Thank you for this and for you. Love, Nancy
Yes, loss is such a big part of our lives. But you always make me smile! Keep up your good work!